Ok, I’ve travelled for quite a bit with this oil now, and feel sufficiently confident to offer an opinion.
It’s been some 300km’s or so since I fed the Pulsar 200NS with this cherry-coloured liquid from Motul. In the meantime, I’ve ridden it like a city commuter in Singapore’s traffic, travelled some really short distances daily for a week (~5min trips), got stuck in a jam somewhere along the Causeway, taken it onto the Malaysian North-South Highway (NSHW) and doing speeds, well, near the limits of this humble 200cc machine. So I’ve pretty much put it through various tests.
So, what do I think about the Motul 7100 15W50 ester-based fully synthetic 4T motorcycle oil in my Pulsar 200NS?
My initial impression – I hated it. Then, as if it were attempting to redeem itself, it seem to transform and I eventually seem to like it. Quite alot.
Let me explain.
Immediately after the oil change, and when I first started the engine, everything seem to fire up well – like it should. So no surprises there. As I let the oil warm before I moved off and headed home from the motorcycle workshop, I realised that the single cylinder engine was roaring a little more than usual. It wasn’t significant. But was sufficiently noticeable.
On my approximately 2km route back home, I did notice that the gear shifted significantly smoother. Gone are the awful clunks when I had to move between gears. Instead, it was buttery smooth shifting from one gear to another. I wasn’t too surprised here, as I recall experiencing very similar feelings whenever the Pulsar gets an oil change.
Due to the short distance between the workshop and back home, and through minor roads, the Pulsar never got to get up to higher revs. And when I stopped at the first traffic lights and left the engine at idle, it actually felt a little rougher than what I had expected of new (good quality) oil in the machine. Now that it drew my attention, and so I moved around some more, taking note of how the engine felt. It felt “rough”. I really, really wanted to like it. But truthfully, I actually hated how the engine felt then. Yes, the gears felt smooth. But the Pulsar’s engine seem to not like the Motul too much.
So I left it as it was and continued to use the machine for transport.
And then, after some 20-50km or so (I wasn’t keeping track), something magical happened. The Pulsar’s triple-sparked engine seem to feel more, well, eager. Throttle response appeared to be snappier and the motorcycle seem to be a lot more ready to surge at my right wrist’s command. The Pulsar with it’s new blood appeared to constantly beckon me push it hard, to make it sprint. The machine seem to have transformed into something sportier, and It actually felt good! But I’m not sure if this was a good thing, as this new found aggressiveness, coupled with several back-to-back days of short distance travel, my last tank of fuel experienced one of the worst mileage I’ve come across – less than 20km/l. I highly suspect it’s the short-distance, stop-and-go traffic, and aggressive riding that contributed to the lowered mileage – much more so than the effect of the oil itself.
The potential of this new blood really manifested when I took the bike out onto the highway. Similarly, it felt more aggressive and was eager to surge. But the sweetness really came about when the engine was at higher revs – it felt smooth! Really, really smooth! I think I’ve change my opinion of the oil now. I actually like it!
So, in my typical curious self, I went online to research on what others’ experience was of the Motul 7100 with the Pulsar. And interestingly, I found 2 separate reviews that seem to mirror my personal experience!
Heres one on bikesindia.org. I’ll extract the relevant part:
“After my bike sipped in about 1.25 litres of this cherry coloured liquid, the initial impression of the bike’s performance was not much really. It was still behaving like it would on the initial Bajaj Mineral oil and my journey back home did not really make me feel any difference on the bike’s performance. It made me question exactly how much of a difference this oil is going to make on my engine and that was it really.
After churning the oil in the engine for over 100 kms, I could steadily feel the effects of the oil come into its own. The sound of the engine changed completely all of a sudden. One could actually feel the vibes reducing by as much as 25-30% and the sound of the engine being a clear throaty sound than the one having a sore throat. Guess this Benadryl was the one it needed after all.
The gear shifts which earlier used to be a real work with loud clicks and thuds and the tendency to stick suddenly came in its own. The shifts became so smooth that I had to actually double check if the gear really had shifted. The feedback though reduced by up to 60% due to the excessive smoothness of the gear shifts, it sometimes scared me making me think that the lever has broken off and is moving freely. Over time I got used to it and then realized that my gearbox was a really harsh one before.”
And here’s another one on nexgenbikes.com comparing the semi-synthetic Motul 5100 with the fully-synthetic 7100:
“(On the Motul 7100 oil) Engines were harsh but negligible for Honda (ZMA / CBR) and Yamaha however acceleration felt better than 5100 along with better top end figures. But with Bajaj and TVS engines, we felt, we were better to be with 5100 even if we have to compromise that acceleration benefit.
For stop and go city ride and hard ripping in signal to signal, 7100 performs better than 5100 as it does gives you benefit in acceleration and aggression as the bikes felt a lot more responsive.
Offers marginal better mileage compare to 5100.
Both this oils are extremely good when it comes to protecting engine and clutch wear, both of them keeps engine and clutch clean and smooth, both this engine oils manages heat and does lubrication job 10 times better than most of the available oils but at the end of the day it comes to riding feeling as here they offer two different feel altogether.
For Yamaha and Honda (Hero Honda too) engines, you can opt for 7100 as paying 200 extra over 5100 does give you some extra kms of engine oil life, but for Pulsar DTS-i and TVS engines, 5100 is the choice.
Where as if you are a tourer, nothing will beat the smoothness of 5100 and if you prefer aggressiveness for acceleration and top speed, chose 7100 for your self.”
I know, I know – it’s strange. But the Motul 7100 is like cheese; or brandy. It’s an “acquired taste”. You need to let it grow on you. Some people may like it, some people not. As for me, I’ve learnt to like it. It turned my 200NS into a “fun” machine once again.
JAN 2017 UPDATE: It’s strange, but I recently found another review of the Motul 7100 on twinkeltorque.com with a similar “initial hate turn love” relationship with the oil. I’ll extract it here:
“I fed the TVS Apache RTR 160 with this cherry-coloured liquid from Motul. Initially, I felt very bad that I wasted my money because it was still behaving like it would on the initial TVS TRU4 PREMIUM. My way back home was like why did I waste my money which does not make any difference in my bike core.
After burning the oil in the engine over a short ride of 150kms, I could feel the effects of the oil in my engine and gear shift too. The sound of the engine and vibration changed completely all of a sudden. The main complaint from all TVS community(In Facebook page, Facebook group & Whats App) will always talk about how to reduce vibration on TVS Apache RTR 160!!. Here one could actually feel the vibration reducing by an average of 33.5% ( 3 times tested by vibrometer and taken it as average ).”
Hi, I am using 7100 in my 200NS (India) and I finding that even though the gears are a bit smoother to work, the engine heats up quite a lot and the radiator fan buzzes like crazy even on 10 km city ride.
This is not the case with Shell Advance 10W40 semi synthetic oil that i was using previously.
I have done many 250 km rides and some 140-160 kms rides continuously using the Shell oil and the bike never heated up at all. Neither in city traffic nor in the summer heat. But Motul is seriously heating the bike. Using it for around 200kms and I have filled exact 1200ml of it.
Any help?
I don’t have the same experience as you. It’s summer all year round in Singapore, with temperatures around 32degC (90degF), and I don’t have any noticeable temperature difference when on Motul’s 7100.
Is it ok for me to use full synthetic oil after the break in process? Some said to stick to the mineral oil for some time and gradually upgrade to semi-synthetic and finally synthetic oil. Is it true?
BTW, good review. Nice quality oil there. Unforunately, there are so many fake engine oil here in Malaysia.
In my opinion, it is totally okay to use synthetic oil after your break in process. In fact, if money is not an issue, you can even use it for your break in process. Synthetic is typically not recommended for the break in process as the oil is typically discarded early – before it reaches anywhere near its end of life. Thus, mineral oil is seem to be more economical and therefore typically recommended.
Ouhh, I see. I thought that the full synthetic oil not suitable for break in as it is too good that it does not provide the friction needed in the process.
Thanks a lot. Eager for your next post.
Hi D,
Ever tried Motorex before? Apparently Motorex is the authorize EO for KTM Bikes. It quit famous in Europe but less known over here. Even i came to know bout it when i bought the Duke200 filter from an authorize KTM Dealer here in Malaysia. Online reviews are good but pricey though, a 15w50 full syn EO cause nearly RM90.00. The dealer here was persuading me to use it, just because both engines for Duke 200 and Pulsar 200 comes from the same factory in India.
As for me, I am still using 5100. Its a good oil when driving in an idle speed about 100kmph – 110kmph. But don’t fell so good during gear shifting, as the clunking sound is quit apparent. Might change to 7100 on the next oil change. Have you used 5100? what was the mileage before you did an oil change?
Thanks bro
Heya. No, I’ve not tried Motorex. And neither have I tried Motul’s 5100. Iirc, the 5100 is mineral-based while the 7100 is synthetic based. And since I can get the 7100 relatively inexpensively at S$20 a bottle, and that the Pulsar uses a mere 1.2 liter of EO, the 5100 is probably not gonna give me too much savings.
I always use 5100 on my ns200. It’s smooth at 110kmph, in fact! Smoother than the 7100 in my opinion! However the gear shifting can be slightly rougher compared to the 7100.
Millage is abt 32km/L if maintain 100-110km/h
35-36km/L if it is kept within the speed limit in SG.
I change it every 3k. Abt 2 months for me. I agree with D it doesn’t save much tbh. But it’s just me I prefer 5100 because it’s slightly smoother than 7100 on the highway.
Hope tt helps!!
Sam
Your experience with the 5100 feeling smoother than the 7100 is not isolated. I’ve read an Indian article that suggested the same experience with the 7100 on the 200NS!
That said, I find that Motul’s 7100 is more readily available than the 5100 here in Singapore.
Hey there do you think I could use 10w40 fully synthetic in my ns200? Thanks!
If I recall correctly, Bajaj calls for 20W50 on the NS200.
Should I use engine flush?
Because I m using Castrol mineral oil and now thinking to switch with different brand mineral oil.
My bike PULSAR NS200 just completed 5000km
You do not need to use an engine flush merely because you intend to switch oil brands.
Thanks Alot sir.
i have 15 v3 bike bike …company suggested me to use 10w40grade oil of Yamaha lube but i am not happy with this performance …can you please suggest me a better oil because travel everyday for about 17 kilometres for two times…. I also wanted to know the better grades of engine oil in motul company than Yamaha company…..will there be any problems if I use other grades then 10w40 and please suggest me the other grades which I can use for the bike
I’ve heard good things about Yamalube. In what way are you not happy with Yamalube? I’d suggest sticking to the oil grade that is specified in your owner’s manual. What does your owner’s manual specify?