I would love to install some electronic accessories such as fog lamps, USB power and DVR camera (just to name a few) to my newly acquired BMW R1200GS LC. As I was researching on how to wire up to supply power to these components, I’ve come across a diverse range of opinions from the “unlike the Japanese bikes, you should never mess with the CAN-bus system of the BMW” to the really expensive solutions such as Fuzeblocks (USD90) and Hex ezCan (USD170).
While the above gadgets have some additional fanciful features to justify their price tags, in reality, I was searching for a simple, elegant, inexpensive solution to power my electronics without interfering with the CAN-bus on the BMW and must also not fry the onboard electronics of the R1200GS should any of the add-on electronics decide to turn rogue.
And so, in my super-secret, ultra high-tech lab with a gazillion gizmos at my disposal, I found my engineering design and drawing board and this is what I came up with…
The idea was to draw a minuscule amount current from a switched 12V source to power a relay, which in turn, would draw power directly from the battery, so as to isolate the additional electronics circuit from the rest of the on-board electronics of the (reportedly, allegedly) super-fussy BMW R1200GS. The spec-sheet of the automotive relay suggested a negligible 160mA of current drawn (at 12V) to energise it.
First, we need to get a switched power source from the BMW R1200GS LC.
Next step, I’ll need to run a (slightly thicker) power wire from the battery terminal to the relay.
So that’s it! Any electronics will then draw power from the PCT-215 distribution block, which in turn draws power directly from the battery via the switched relay. Thus, isolating the circuit from the on-board electronics of the motorcycle.
Total cost? Less than $5 for this inexpensive and effective switched 12V power solution! Now, who says everything on a BMW motorcycle has to be expensive? =P
Congrats on the new bike. This is like the ultimate adventure bike. Too bad it’s too tall for me, so I’ll never be able to own one. Did you buy it new or used?
Also, I understand you’ll need a GS911 diagnostic tool to add electronics stuff to the 1200. The way you are doing it now is to tap a small current to turn on the relay. This little current is low enough not to trip the onboard diagnostic. That works, but sounds a bit hackey. I wonder if one fine day, the bike will somehow notice this and refuse to start, and according to Murphy’s Law, this will be in a ulu deserted part of a foreign country in the pouring rain in the middle of the night surrounded by wilderness, heh.
Probably better to borrow a GS911 from a BMW owner and do it the German way.
The diagnostic tool has nothing to do with tapping a trigger power for the relay actuation. You don’t need a GS911 to add electronics to the GS. In fact, I learnt to wire up in that manner from the instructions of some of the after-market electronic accessories specifically built for the GS.
I haven’t planned on getting the overpriced GS911. As an intermediate measure, I’d be trying out MotoScan for the GS. Seem to do most of what I’ll likely need to do on my GS – including reading error codes and resetting the service indicator.
Oh, interesting. I was told by a BMW owner that any unaccounted power draw, like DIY tapping of power for accessories, will be detected as an error on the bike. A GS911 is needed to program the bike to account for the new power draw. Oh well.
Anyway, have fun on your new bike. I’m a lurker on your blog, and have always enjoyed reading about your adventures (and sometimes, misadventures).
🙂
I know the posts are pretty old but for the future guests. I have been playing today with 2015 GS ADV and connected external phone holder with USB charged (through the fuse and with on/off switch) which actually when powered on gives a warning light on the dashboard 😉
You probably drew too high current and the CANbus detected that. Try drawing power directly from the battery and only using the ignition-on / “hot” wire as a “signal” to switch your relay.
Depends on the power draw I guess.
I have successfully done this for my current 2019 R1250 GS Adventure, and the previous 2017 R1200GS Adventure.
I tap direct to the Navigator cabling, and power a ‘Lying Lynda’ video camera.
This is named after ‘Lynda’, who did a U turn right in front of me, completely blocking my way. She said “Why were you driving so fast. I was indicating for ages”. My *real* witness said I was not driving fast and his wife said “Why wasn’t she indicating”. Their insurance c0mpany said independent evidence was all that mattered, so I bought the camera. In the UK these are accepted as evidence. It doesn’t record speed fortunately (8-)#
It also powers a fused relay, and input is direct from the battery. I route the output through to my top box for charging via DC-DC converters.
Will this kind of fuse box work?
Fuse Box With 4 Output for S$15 https://sg.carousell.com/p/145020081
Almost any kind of fuse box will work. How will you be wiring it up? And where do you intend to place it?
Hi, thanks for the blog. May I know where you get the PCT-215 block from?
Thanks
I bought mine from AliExpress. If you’re based in Singapore, the electronic component shops in Sim Lim Tower sells them too.
Learn something here. But notice one point. It’s always wise to use a waterproof fuse box in the 12V tap from the battery, place it near to the battery end if the battery + 12v to relay run is long.
If you do that, just get a non fused relay also no issue.
Hi. I am installing a dvr on the GS. Can I wire directly into the battery and use a manual switch to isolate the power? So after starting the bike, I flip the switch to turn on the camera..
Sure you can – it’s YOUR bike after all. And since it’s connected directly to the battery, you don’t even need to fire up your bike before flipping the switch – the DVR will turn on regardless. Risk is that if you left the switch flipped ON after parking, you may drain your battery sufficiently to not be able to start the bike at all!
Thanks very much for sharing your experience – I tapped into the red/blue wire as you did and all is working perfectly. You saved me hunting around for the most appropriate switched +12V wire to use. Appreciate it!
That’s awesome! And the best part is that you won’t even have to worry about any canbus compatibility issues.
Dear sir,
Thanks for this info. I will try to do as yout tutorial. To add a pair of spotlight and day running light. So far is there any problems u faced usin direct draw from batt using relay.?
None at all. Everything’s hunky-dory.
I had zero knowhow on wiring actually. After going through your tutorial, i stuck at the pct215 . How do i connect the spotlights to the pct215.
Thanks
I’m assuming that you’ve wired up the PCT215 to supply 12V. If so, then you connect the positive wire of the LED to the PCT215 with a switch in between. Then the negative wire connects to ground – could be the bike / engine frame for convenience.
But quite seriously, if you’re not too confident, would suggest sending it to a competent workshop to help you out. =)
now i understand. hmm not 100% confident. but as long as i can understand the flow of the wiring. i am willing to try it haha.
Hi, can i tap two trigger wire to this red/blue wire? I have my dvr on, and now i intend to add another pair of fog lights.
Personally I wouldn’t power the fogs using this line. The current draw’s a little high, and it might trigger warning / error on the CANbus.
Very helpful and informative notes. Thank you very much. I want to install a set LED lights to my 1200GS LC. Your tip for 12v switched positive is great. But I am a little confused about this 7.5A fuse. I will be using the red-blue wire to trigger my relay which has already a fuse on its connection to the positive pole of the battery. Does the bike’s 7.5A fuse have anything to do with my LED harness?
Thanks for your support.
Cheers and ride safe.
That 7.5A fused is stock on my R1200GS LC. The relay draws a minuscule amount of current (0.16A according to the datasheet) to actuate. Once switched, power draw to the LED’s is directly from the battery – thus I included a 10A fuse for wiring protection on the LED side of things. Hope this clarifies.
All good. Thanks for the quick reply. Apreciated. I think I can install my LEDs now. Furthermore, if it is possible, I d like to share with you my wiring diagram to get your opinion. How can I do? The comment box does not allow.
Thanks and kind regards.
Drop me a contact message and we can take this offline on email. 🙂
Great. I am thankful.
My email is:
barkinsahin@gmail.com
Hi hi, thank you for this informative sharing.
I recently replaced the MF Battery for a Skyrich Lipo battery on my GSA LC, and it made alot of difference is the “sleep” discharge issue encountered inbetween my rides.
During the commissioning of the Lipo Battery by the workshop to ascertain functionality of bike charging system so as to validate the warranty clause of the Skyrich battery, the bike electrician identified a current draw of 0.16A when the bike is in powered down state… and traced it to my exact relay set-up as you.
So now, the mystery of the sleep discharge experienced since this modification had been answered.
I decided to isolate the relay setup inbetween my monthly rides (by removing the relay).
My question to you and all who had this relay setup to your GS, do you have the same issues?
Comments pls.
I don’t understand the power drain issue. I connect my relay activation to the GPS power. When that power is disconnected (maybe 10 seconds after ignition off) there is zero voltage and therefore no drain. I run the output to my top box via a 5.5 barrel socket on the box and inline 5.5 barrel output inside. I then split the 12v power cable for all equipment I want to use (with barrel plug/sockets).
My first use (with a 12v->19v 3A stepup) is to charge my 29ah Ravpower powerbox. This will give me power for lights/computer/charging on an EU camping trip.
Thank you for your detailed description.
Maybe you can help me: if i disconnect the battery, will be any failure code after connect again it? Gs1200(2013). I didn’t disconnect it up to now…
Laci
I’m not certain as I’ve not tried it myself. But what you’ve described is typical of a battery replacement procedure – which has to happen sometime in the lifetime of your bike ownership, ya?
I have disconnected and reconnected the battery of my 2015 r1200gs LC 2 or 3 times. No error code or something similar occured. The only thing that happened was the clock needed to be reset. Also consumptions and trip data were all reset. Consequently it is a safe procedure. You should first disconnect the negative pole (black) and positive (red) later. And when reconnecting, the red pole first and black later. Make sure no metal piece / tool touch the negative pole to avoid short circuit. You may want to temporarily tape the negative pole while working on the harness.
Cheers and ride safe.
Thank Barkin for answer.
I had more types of motorbike, but those were without CAN.
CAN BUS can be very sensitive …
I thought the disconnect/reconnect maybe not problem, but i was uncertain in this case.
Have a nice day.
I want to do exactly the same. I have a huge Ravpower powerbank – https://is.gd/3qrjU6
I need to charge this on camping trip. The Ravpower with 12v to 19v DC converter, takes over 4a at 12v to charge, and trips the accessory socket ‘soft’ fuse on my R1200GS adventure.
I plan to do just this. I will have a 5.5mm barrel output. This will connect to a socket underneath my top box. …. now to find a suitable ignition switched 5v cable (8-)#
I spliced the relay trigger direct into the GPS cable. The controller did not notice the marginal extra current. I made a 12v 5.5mm barrel splitter in my top box to charge both my jump start (80hr torch!) and Ravpower. All worked fine on a recent 2,000 mile ‘wild camping’ trip.
Hi, just completed the above task on my 2019 R1250GS and it works perfectly. The only change I made was obtaining the earth directly from the battery as I know that frame earths can be unreliable.
Awesome!
Hi will I need a switch for the spots when fitted after this or will lights come on when ignition switched on Cheers
That really depends on what you’d like to achieve! I’ll definitely recommend installing a switch for the fogs.
hi again
I was hoping to wire driving lights using your diagram, so the lights come on when my ignition is switched on. without using switch regards
Regardless, I’d still add a switch in between. Just leave it in the ON a position if you wish to use ignition to control it. At least you still retain some control to turn off the lights when / if needed.
Just carried out this mod for my foglamp installation, seems a good solution so far. Ill keep you posted as to how it goes and if any problems arise. Good info and a great post there buddy, cheers.
Awesome! It hasn’t been a problem for me too…. but I’ve eventually removed it as I eventually got myself the Hex ezCan for the R1200GS.
Does the cap for the fuse port (sorry don’t know the correct name) have a part number? I’ve been looking for a replacement fuse cap for those fuses you tapped into, and have not been able to find anything.
Really helpful post. Thanks. I did my install today!
Glad it helped!
Great instructions, well done and thanks. I fitted an auxiliary socket to my 2019 GSA for a heated Gerbing waistcoat and used your instructions. Only changes: like others I used the negative post of the battery; and the relay I had wouldn’t fit where you showed. In the low-seat position there wasn’t enough space. I hinged up the BMW control box and that exposes lots of space below it for the relay. One other comment, the trigger source stays live for around 1 minute after ignition off before it times out. That source is the ABS Pro circuit but, as you said, the relay current doesn’t bring up any faults.
I too have rigged up a fused relay connected direct to the battery. I take my relay activation from the satnav cable on my 1250 GSA. Even with the seat in its lowest position, there is room for the relay.
Also adding a direct feed from the satnav for my video camera doesn’t trigger a systems error. There must be a wide current margin.
I run a 12v double socket into my top box and charge my emergency start and powerbank.
I need these for my (wild) camping trips. I have only ever used the emergency start as a torch, with 120 hours’ life (8-)#
I will never forget watching F1 on my Macbook from a tent in the south of France using VPN and a mobile connection.
Tks Singbiker, this was very helpful and i have done your setup on my bike. Exactly the same but with the addition of a fuse from the switched power wire to the relay coil, just in case the relay goes haywire.
Awesome!
I tapped in the opposite side of the fuse. So if anything real bad goes, it will pop the 7.5.
Wow…3 years in and your tutorial is still alive an well.
Thanks for this
Glad it helped!
On the water cooled R1200GSA and R1250GSA, the 12v on the fuses is not ignition controlled. Even the 12V for rear lights is permanent. The lights are controlled by ‘intelligent’ chips that complete a ground connection. I bare a little insulation on one of the front power cables (usually satnav) and solder to it.
I double insulate the soldering and whole cable (running over the fuel tank) with heat shrink. I triple insulate the permanent wiring to the battery. So far, with three new bikes, BMW have not noticed the mods.
Mind you if I did have a warranty claim, I would remove it all.
I run the output to two 12V outlets in my top box.
I’m connecting a DVR carplay/Android auto but the power cable come in 3 wire. There is a yellow cable and the acc & -ve. Yellow cable is refer to key port or something… Can this connected to the part you draw power for you relay?
The 3 wires are typically for 12v power, ground, and 12v signal.
Can I wired those 3 wires without relay?
You can.